the Blue Empire Strikes Back – a Justice 4 Travis supporter Speaks Out (Feb 17)

Robert Knox’s post In Defense of Jodi prompted a lively debate and discussion. Some prosecution supporters were fit to be tied, and wanted to put Knox in stocks, or just throw blocks. Yes, I’m joking and being overly dramatic, but there was a spirited discussion from both sides in the comments section that was very civil on this blog, on Facebook and a little on Twitter. Most comments were interesting, informative and well done.

A commenter and an Administrator on a popular FB page wrote a response to Robert Knox’s post.

 

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A frequent flyer on that page named Ireyna wrote a response and she gave me permission to share it here. In the interest of fairness and equal time, and because I liked what she had to say, I wanted to post it. I also spoke to Robert Knox, and we had an interesting discussion about the physical evidence at the crime scene, especially the bloody hand print. Some of that is important to talk about.

So here is Ireyna’s response posted verbatim as quoted:

 

team travis 10“It’s really so difficult trying to see Knox’s side. I don’t think he really knows Jodi as he claims to. His name was not on the list for allowed visitors to Jodi in Estrella either. His rendition of Jodi makes Mother Theresa look badass. For basically a very newcomer, he is more than likely a second, third, or fourth etc. etc. profile for someone already commenting on the case.

So imo, his words don’t hold a lot of weight regarding Jodi. Sure Jodi comes across as a sweet little girl on many of her broadcast interviews … that’s the catch … acting like a sweet little girl and all these men are turned on by it … almost revolting. She was a woman of 27 when she hacked and shot Travis. At age 27 most females are really into womanhood with children of their own or planning a family. They act accordingly. Not seeking the spotlight using little girl’s innocent voices.

I’m not claiming Travis was a saint and never have. He was an average man playing the field like many men do, trying to find the right fit. Many men and many women date many others before they find the right fit. Some just keep on dating once they are married. Should we be happy if they are all slaughtered off for being unfaithful?

I have no doubt that Travis was afraid of getting married and settling down for fear he would have to face situations similar to that of his parents. Is that a sin that should be punishable by a horrid death? Knox idolizes Jodi. He sees only Jodi and not what she has done. I doubt he takes into consideration what many witness statements/interviews of Jodi’s own relatives and friends have to say.

The shady bunch ltMost of us justice for Travis supporters realize Travis was not a perfect man. Such a man does not exist. Whether he watched porn or not, that is no reason to slaughter him. Jodi was obsessed with him and couldn’t let go and I believe she was the instigator of the late night calls about sex. She offered herself up for sex and then was mad at Travis b/c he was seeing others. In what is left of his journals (the ones Jodi did not destroy) it is proof that he wanted to move on and have nothing more to do with her. Why didn’t she leave it at that?”

– Ireyna Rihter

“As someone upthread stated, there is really nothing much to debate in Jodi’s letter to the Alexanders. Some things may have a ring of truth however much does not. Her relationship with Travis was really short lived … when Jodi decided to involve Sky by complaining about Travis, the drama began.

I believe Travis was then finding out Jodi’s true nature. I do not believe he was begging her to move to Mesa and there is text that proves he didn’t want her in Mesa and was upset she moved there. There were witnesses who spoke of Jodi’s interference … Lisa for one, and it didn’t paint a pretty picture at all.

team travis 6Deanna … even though there was no longer the dating relationship there … they were very good friends. I cannot believe that Travis told Jodi to keep things from Deanna b/c she would freak out; she is just not that kind of person and her testimony has weight. The murder scene that Knox thinks could be true as Jodi stated … maybe just a wee bit …

I can believe that Travis was down after the gunshot after standing at the sink pouring blood and then was trying to get away.And I believe Jodi was screaming at Travis but certainly not to get away. She was likely screaming at him that she would finish him off b/c he rejected her. Whatever we gleaned from Travis’ journal pages, he was done with the Jodi drama that she always created and he was finished with her extreme hissy fits of crying over him.

Alexander sibs 2He had moved on and was happy she was out of his life. After he wrote things like that, I really do not believe he wanted her to swing by and visit him. All of that is Jodi’s word . I also do not believe he was begging her to marry him, again only Jodi’s word. Travis was talking about several other possible consorts and he had every right to as a young man shopping for Mrs. Right.

Jodi was clearly obsessed and could not let go and evidence proves that. That letter to the Alexanders was primarily to throw someone else under the bus … most likely Deanna, whom Jodi seems not to be able to face in court. I truly believe that Jodi was jealous of the love Travis had with Deanna. And the fact that Travis trusted Deanna so much to care for his dog while he was gone. He asked Deanna, not Jodi. The letter was self serving and certainly no answer for the Alexanders. She really should feel sick and ashamed over such a babble of lies.”  – Ireyna Rihter

 

This comment is very representative of the sentiment of the Blue Empire of Justice 4 Travis or prosecution supporters. Blue because as most people know, that was Travis’ favorite color and a rallying color for Travis. Empire defines the overwhelming majority that do support the prosecution and the guilty verdict. It’s definitely a comprehensive response showing the general feeling towards Jodi and what most J4T supporters feel was really going on in the relationship.

team travis 2I understand Robert Knox has known Jodi Arias for going on two years. He told me they have exchanged many, many letters and have had lots of phone conversations. He didn’t say if he had visited her. In any case, his profile name may be different from his actual name and who could blame him?

People that use their real names, ironically many prominent Jodi supporters, were hounded via Facebook from here to Tripoli. They were attacked in their real lives. This has happened on both sides and it’s part of the craziness – deep inside the Jodi Arias trial jungle. I hope most of us are over all that now.

Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!

The late night talks were probably started by Travis, imo, as he would save his social calling for night time after all the business of the day was finished. I believe he had that habit before meeting Jodi. Possibly Jodi and Travis had discussed marriage early in the relationship. There is some reason to doubt that in the Summer of 2007, that Travis begged Jodi to marry him or begged that she would move to Mesa from Palm Desert/Big Sur.

Let me correct that: It appears that sometime in 2007, they had discussed Jodi moving to Mesa and Travis wanted this. After They “broke up” in late June, it appears from text messages that Travis may not have been so hot on the idea.

Travis and deannaIt appears there was some friction about Jodi moving to Mesa, but talk about that subject is remarkably absent for most of the time Jodi was living in Mesa. Apparently,Travis ‘adjusted’ to the situation.

It might be interesting to look back and see what Jodi’s response to Deanna Ried actually was in court when Deanna was testifying in the original trial, so I gathered some clips of that:

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Jodi kept busy with her art work and rarely looked up towards Deanna. When the questioning shifted to the time Deanna broke up with Travis, and their relationship afterwards, Jodi’s ears seem to perk up. Talk about Deanna inheriting Travis’ dog Napoleon was another subject that definitely captured Jodi’s attention.

team travis 1There’s so much evidence that Jodi was (and may still be) obsessed with Travis that it’s practically indisputable. She stated it herself quite a few times.

That got me thinking of the “snooping” evidence, more famously known as the “peeping” evidence. An unwelcome guest or a stranger peeping in somebody’s window is strange. kutcherEven friends or neighbors looking in someone’s window at odd hours would be probably seem strange to you, also. But a frequent visitor and welcome guest looking in someone’s window is not so strange, and it happens a lot. I’ve done it, and chances are, you have, too. Check out this story about Ashton Kutcher to see what I mean:

 

 

– Kutcher told police that he later tried to call Ellerin twice during the evening but she had not picked up her phone.

– Kutcher drove to her apartment at 10.45 pm in the hopes of smoothing over what he thought was a looming argument, and found that the lights were on in her apartment and her car was parked outside.

After knocking on the door and calling out to her with no answer, Kutcher said he looked through a window into the apartment and saw what he thought was red wine pooled on the floor.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340075/Ashton-Kutcher-recalls-horror-girlfriends-2001-murder-trial-serial-killer-looms.html#ixzz3S0gN8WF8

Here, even Ashton Kutcher peeped in the windows of his date’s house when she didn’t answer the door. His instincts were good, because unfortunately for her, at that time she was quite dead.

Recently, Amanda and I reviewed some Youtube videos of serial killers who openly discussed their crimes and what some people said about them. It was a fascinating study of the criminal mind and psychology that we highly recommend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaT3uV_6cI

Here are some quotes from the video:

A victim’s family member on the death penalty: “Death is not a punishment, living is.”

Why a woman helped her lover to kill people:   “If you were mean to me, that meant you loved me and I did what I was told by my lover”.

A different victim’s family member on the death penalty:  “I would like to see him dead, not eating breakfast or reading a book.”

 

team travis 3Notice how Ireyna, as many prosecution supporters who looked closely at the details in this case, believes the gunshot was first. Although many prosecution supporters think the shot was first, they believe Jodi shot Travis in the shower, and then things got messy, when that didn’t kill him.

That got me thinking of the physical evidence in the bathroom. Robert Knox and I had a conversation about the bloody handprint on the wall. Hing – hing – hing …. the BLOODY HANDPRINT ….. hing – hing – hing – hing. I remember discussions in the past where we were talking about whether or not the bloody handprint actually existed. I rembered thinking the trial videos showed that it did. But then after a talk with Robert Knox about it, I re-checked the trial videos. Here’s what I found:

travis-alexander2It turns out that there was no evidence at all presented at trial that there was in fact a bloody handprint on the wall. Your mind conjures up an image of Jodi Arias with blood red hands and hands dripping blood, bracing herself against the bathroom hallway wall to get more leverage to stab Travis, or slipping in the pools of warm, slippery blood and putting her hand out against the wall to stop a fall.

There was a palm print of a left hand and it was found to be Jodi Arias’ print. The print was discovered while dusting the entire bathroom entrance hallway from waist level to about eye level. The evidence collector performed a presumptive test for blood and the test was negative. The DNA scientist discovered that the print contained a majority of Jodi Arias’ DNA and a minority of Travis Alexander’s DNA. One would expect, if the print were formed during the homicide, that the majority of the blood would be Travis’.

knox in box 3The DNA scientist also didn’t say the sample hand print was in blood, but only some “genetic material”. So it turns out that Robert Knox was correct, there was no bloody handprint. There was a hand print found of some type of genetic material, and it was matched to Jodi and Travis. That’s all. Could it have been blood? It could, but the test for blood was negative. Jodi could have made that print at anytime she was in Travis’ home and bedroom. Similarly, the hair in blood, found to be Jodi Arias’ hair in Travis’ blood, is not 100% proof of her presence that day, either. At least, not the way it was presented in court.

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team travis 8They did not get into details about the color of the hair found or what coloring was used. Detective Flores made a comment to Jodi at the interrogation about the hair root, or follicle decaying after several weeks, proving that she had to have been there recently since the time she left Mesa in April, 2008. Flores said the hair root begins to break down in a few weeks. I have not found the evidence to back that up. It seems a hair root can last for months. Travis had a maid service in May, but that doesn’t mean some of Jodi’s hairs couldn’t have been there from months before.

Evidence screener hand printYou can tell that Juan Martinez does not like the scientific evidence such as DNA very much, and Kirk Nurmi was just as eager to not jump into that stuff in great detail. Some trial watchers have said that the DNA and print evidence was rock solid, so the prosecution and defense stipulated to it prior to trial, and that  seems to be why it was presented so briefly. It’s really amazing that in the type of chaotic crime scene we saw, with both parties bare-handed, that so little print or DNA evidence was found.

The DNA profiler explains how she tested the swab from the handprint.

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This dovetails ever-so-nicely into the dreaded alternative theories. It’s possible that the physical evidence of Jodi Arias’ presence at the crime scene (hair, blood, DNA) can be effectively challenged. That would leave only the evidence from the camera. This would explain the Alternative Theorist’s obsession with the photos from Travis’ camera. If that evidence could be explained away, then presto change-o, Jodi Arias was never even there. Here’s some of the stuff the Alternative Theorists have investigated

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  • The idea that the shower depicted in the photos is not the shower in Travis’ master bathroom.
  • The idea that the sex photos were from another time, and possibly downloaded onto Travis’ camera.
  • The idea that the shower photos depict more than 2 people present, some theories stating there were many people present as well as animals, including Napoleon present in the bathroom.
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From the world of HJ Blankenship

  • The idea that the time stamps on the photos were altered, doctored, or added to the photos to depict June 4th, 2008. Some theories stating that the camera Travis had did not have a time-stamp capability.
  • Various interpretations of the photos known as evidence #162 (the foot photo) and #163 (the baseboard photo) to depict persons other than Jodi and situations other than described in court.
  • The idea that Jodi Arias is not an octopus, and could not hold a knife, a gun, and the camera all at once.

 

  • One interpretation I came up with, that Jodi’s left hand can be seen in photo #163 below Travis’ back, necessitating an additional third person in the bathroom to snap the photo.

team travis 9If you consider the skimpy physical evidence of Jodi’s presence in the bathroom on June 4th, 2008, you can understand why the alternative theorists are skeptical of the camera evidence. Having possibly removed Jodi from the scene, they look at other strange facts from around that time to come up with other possible assailants.

* The uncanny similarities between the murder and the old Mormon blood atonement ritual (multiple stabbings, the rital scraping of the skull with a specialized star-shaped instrument, a deep stab through the heart, the slit throat, and a ritualized cleansing of the body afterwards).

* The blood atonement ritual was a way a devout Mormon, who had committed grave sins, could still be forgiven and welcomed into heaven on planet Kolob with full honors, if the person were purified through allowing him or herself to be murdered.

* Alternative theorists also look to CASH Hughes (Chris And Sky Hughes) theorizing that the powerful couple needed to take Travis out before his indiscretions caused a backlash in the greater LDS community that could take down PPL (The multi-million dollar Pre-Paid Legal insurance empire.)

* The mysterious suicide of Dan and Desiree Freeman’s younger brother, Josh, shortly after Travis’ murder.

* The suicide after the murder of the girlfriend (Ashley Reed), of a jealous and violent man (Dustin Thompson). Ashley was spending more and more time with Travis and had discussed moving into his home with him.

* Ashley Reed even made an anonymous call to the Mesa Police department implicating her boyfriend, Dustin Thompson, in Travis’murder (see the Flores Report). FYI, Dustin owned a small caliber pistol.

* The mysterious shoeprint in blood found in the bathroom. That’s a must for any competent Alternative Theorist to try and fit that shoeprint into a quality alternative theory.

Some people think that Alternative Theories defy Occam’s Razor (the idea that the simplest solution or explanation is usually the correct one). They also think there’s way too much splainin’ to do for any of these theories to pass muster.

team travis 4Even Jodi Arias has spoken out asking the alternative theorists to shut their pie holes and their think tanks and labs down and just stop it. But they remain undeterred. Completely unabated, the AT’s are still going harder, faster, and stronger than ever. They continue to make inquiries, do investigative and forensic work, and to formulate new and modified theories. Oh yeah, and to make videos, too.

Someone posted this video which may or may not be from HJ Blankenship, the guy who discovered the reflection in Travis’ eye and the first trial watcher to step out of the social media, get mentioned on HLN, and to directly influence the Jodi Arias trial. I think it was either Gray Hughes or Mike LeBlanc who posted this.

I have to say, HJ did a great job on this video, it’s unquestionably entertaining, to say the least.

This is a don’t miss video to watch:

Appetizer:

https://www.youtube.com/user/hajable9

Main Course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPDWzBezqXQ

Here’s a small sample of HJ Blankenship’s Tour de Force

 

So, we somehow managed to get it all on one page, the Justice 4 Travis Blue Empire, the Die Hard Jodi supporters, and the Iron man Alternative Theorists. All three categories of active trial watchers have changed their views and their focus at least a little bit, and some a lotta bit. All three categories are still out there, clarifying their views and investigating it all even further. They’re checking and double-checking. We’re all waiting for the jury’s decision.

Will it reflect real Justice, serious Justice or just more Injustice? It will depend mostly on your point of view.

 

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35 thoughts on “the Blue Empire Strikes Back – a Justice 4 Travis supporter Speaks Out (Feb 17)”

  1. Good article Rob. I disagree with the hair esp. She couldn’t explain that away just for the fact it was brown. Also because it was stuck in blood……we see how she throws people under the bus, her parents is a perfect example. If anyone else did this she would have said so, just like she tried to throw Thomas Brown as a suspect at first. And if it was self defense she wouldnt have tried to plea for 2nd degree.

    1. Thanks. Lisa!
      Do you remember about the hair being shown to be brown? I just don’t have the science to know if a shed hair dyed blonde decays and gets dark or not. I don’t rememer them showing the hair at trial. This is more armchair detective type stuff.

      1. \\\\The hair and palm print evidence weren’t a major issue at trial because, she admitted to killing him. I’m sure it was testified to by the state and I don’t think Nurmi was too concerned about it. He knew it was there and that she was as well.

  2. Just don’t think you have a clue, too bad you have a blog that disrespects the Travis Alexander Family. I am a trial watcher, I’m not anything more or less. Your so wrong on so many things. Evidence shows TA was very upset about JA moving to AZ and peeking in his windows crawling through doggie doors, laying under Christmas tree, sleeping in his bed, clearly you drank Jodie’s kool-aide . Wow! Wish I’d not of bothered. I never even waste time on JA supporters sites, tweets, etc,,,, clueslees people in deniel. You all pick about Travis some how. He was sitting in his shower and a premeditated murderous act was committed on him. WRONG! Nothing else matters!!! Let Travis rest in peace!!! PLEASE YOUVE ALL ALLOWED JA TO TAKE YOU OFF IN 50 DIRECTIONS-A simple slam dunk case for the prosecution -JUSTUCE IS DEATH. She’s evil, she took a GOOD MANS LIFE, sold his journals his legacy!

    1. Thanks for commenting, Rae. I’m not sure how much journaling Travis did? I don’t think it was that much. Those who have checked out Beth Karas’ paid site mat know better.

      This was done with as much respect as possible for Travis. We present all sides here. I’m sorry you didn’t see it that way. I really feel I made an effort to be fair to all perspectives. I haven’t seen that to this extent on any other blog. I hope you come back again and re-evaluate.

  3. Blah blah. Just another wanna be journalists bs opinion. You support a violent abusive man. You demonize a survivor. Get this straight. He was what he was. An abuser. And you fully support a sodomizing POS. Read this and know. He was the filthy pig he was. And no. He didn’t deserve to die he brought it on himself when he knew she was going to expose him.
    Travis. The real Travis exposed.
    AUGUST 6, 2014
    5 Sneaky Things Narcissists Do To Take Advantage Of You
    Shahida Arabi
    In popular culture, the term “narcissistic” is thrown about quite loosely, usually referring to vanity and self-absorption. This reduces narcissism to a common quality that everyone possesses and downplays the symptoms demonstrated by people with the actual disorder. While narcissism does exist on a spectrum, narcissism as a full-fledged personality disorder is quite different.

    People who meet the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder or those who have traits of Antisocial Personality Disorder can operate in extremely manipulative ways within the context of intimate relationships due to their deceitfulness, lack of empathy, and their tendency to be interpersonally exploitative. Although I will be focusing on narcissistic abusers in this post, due to the overlap of symptoms in these two disorders, this can potentially apply to interactions with those who have ASPD to an extent.

    It’s important in any kind of relationship that we learn to identify the red flags when interacting with people who display malignant narcissism and/or antisocial traits, so we can better protect ourselves from exploitation and abuse, set appropriate boundaries with others, and make informed decisions about who we keep in our lives. Understanding the nature of these toxic interactions and how they affect us has an enormous impact on our ability to engage in self-care.

    Watch out for the following covert manipulation tactics when you’re dating someone or in any other kind of relationship:

    1. The Idealization-Devaluation-Discard Phase

    Narcissists and those with antisocial traits tend to subject romantic partners through three phases within a relationship. The idealization phase (which often happens most strongly during the early stages of dating or a relationship) consists of putting you on a pedestal, making you the center of his/her world, being in contact with you frequently, and showering you with flattery and praise. You are convinced that the narcissist can’t live without you and that you’ve met your soulmate. Be wary of: constant texting, shallow flattery and wanting to be around you at all times. This is a technique known as “love-bombing” and it is how most victims get sucked in: they are flattered by the constant attention they get from the narcissist. You may be fooled into thinking that this means a narcissist is truly interested in you, when in fact, he or she is interested in making you dependent on their constant praise and attention.

    The devaluation phase is subsequent to this idealization phase, and this is when you’re left wondering why you were so abruptly thrust off the pedestal. The narcissist will suddenly start to blow hot and cold, criticizing you, covertly and overtly putting you down, comparing you to others, stonewalling you, emotionally withdrawing from you and giving you the silent treatment when you’ve failed to meet their extreme “standards.” Since the “hot” aspect of this phase relies on intermittent reinforcement in which the narcissist gives you inconsistent spurts of the idealization phase throughout, you become convinced that perhaps you are at fault and you can “control” the narcissist’s reactions.

    You are mislead into thinking that if you just learn not to be so “needy” or “clingy,” the narcissist will reward you with the loving behavior he or she demonstrated in the beginning. These are words that narcissists often use to demean victims when abuse victims mourn the loss of the idealization phase or react normally to being provoked. It’s a way to maintain control over your legitimate emotional reactions to their stonewalling, emotional withdrawal and inconsistency.

    Unfortunately, it is during the devaluation phase that a narcissist’s true self shows itself. You have to understand that the man or woman in the beginning of the relationship never truly existed. The true colors are only now beginning to show, so it will be a struggle as you attempt to reconcile the image that the narcissist presented to you with his or her current behavior.

    Even though the narcissist can be quite possessive and jealous over you, since he or she views you as an object and a source of narcissistic supply, the narcissist is prone to projecting this behavior onto you. The narcissist makes you seem like the needy one as you react to his or her withdrawal and withholding patterns even though the expectations of frequent contact were established early on in the relationship by the narcissist himself.

    During the discard phase, the narcissist abandons his or her victim in the most horrific, demeaning way possible to convince the victim that he or she is worthless. This could range from: leaving the victim for another lover, humiliating the victim in public, blatantly ignoring the partner for a long period of time, being physically aggressive and a whole range of other demeaning behaviors to communicate to the victim that he or she is no longer important.

    Although “normal” relationships can end in a similar this manner as well, the difference is that the narcissist often makes it clear he or she intends to hurt you by giving you the silent treatment, spreading rumors about you, cheating on you, insulting you and disrespecting you during the discard phase. Unlike “normal” partners, they ensure that you never have closure, and if you decide to leave them, they might decide to stalk you to show that they still have control.

    2. Gaslighting.

    While healthy relationships have room for respectful disagreement and consideration of one’s feelings, with the narcissist, gaslighting and constant emotional invalidation become the norm. Gaslightingis a technique abusers use to convince you that your perception of the abuse is inaccurate. During the devaluation and discard phases, the narcissist will often invalidate and criticize your emotions, and displace any blame of his or her abuse as your fault. Frequent use of phrases such as “You provoked me,” “You’re too sensitive,” “I never said that,” or “You’re taking things too seriously” after the narcissists’ abusive outbursts are common and are used to gaslight you into thinking that the abuse is indeed your fault or that it never even took place.

    Narcissists are masters of making you doubt yourself and the abuse. This is why victims so often suffer even after the ending of a relationship with a narcissist, because the emotional invalidation they received from the narcissist made them feel powerless in their agency and perceptions. This self-doubt enables them to stay within abusive relationships even when it’s clear that the relationship is a toxic one, because they are led to mistrust their own instincts and interpretations of events.

    3. Smear campaigns.

    Narcissists keep harems because they love to have their egos stroked and they need constant validation from the outside world to confirm their grandiose sense of self-importance and fulfill their need for excessive admiration. This is why they are clever chameleons who are also people-pleasers, morphing into whatever personality suits them in situations with different types of people to get what they want.

    Beware of people who seem to shape-shift suddenly before your eyes into different personas — this is a red flag that they are not authentic in their interactions with you and others. It is no surprise, then, that the narcissist will probably begin a smear campaign against you not too long after the discard phase, in order to paint you as the unstable one, and that this is usually successful with the narcissist’s support network which also tends to consist of other narcissists, people-pleasers, empaths, as well as people who are easily charmed.

    This smear campaign is used to accomplish three things: 1) it depicts you as the abuser or unstable person and deflects your accusations of abuse; 2) it provokes you into responding, thus proving your instability to others when trying to argue his or her depiction of you; and 3) serves as a hoovering technique in which the narcissist seeks to pull you back into the trauma of the relationship as you struggle to reconcile the rumors about you with who you actually are by speaking out against the accusations.

    The only way to not get pulled into this tactic is by going full No Contact with both the narcissist and his or her harem.

    4. Triangulation.

    Healthy relationships thrive on security; unhealthy ones are filled with provocation, uncertainty and infidelity. Narcissists like to manufacture love triangles and bring in the opinions of others to validate their point of view. They do this to an excessive extent in order to play puppeteer to your emotions. In the book Psychopath Free by Peace, the method of triangulation is discussed as a popular way the narcissist maintains control over your emotions. Triangulation consists of bringing the presence of another person into the dynamic of the relationship, whether it be an ex-lover, a current mistress, a relative, or a complete stranger.

    This triangulation can take place over social media, in person, or even through the narcissist’s own verbal accounts of the other woman or man. The narcissist relies on jealousy as a powerful emotion that can cause you to compete for his or her affections, so provocative statements like “I wish you’d be more like her,” or “He wants me back into his life, I don’t know what to do” are designed to trigger the abuse victim into competing and feeling insecure about his or her position in the narcissist’s life.

    Unlike healthy relationships where jealousy is communicated and dealt with in a productive manner, the narcissist will belittle your feelings and continue inappropriate flirtations and affairs without a second thought. Triangulation is the way the narcissist maintains control and keeps you in check — you’re so busy competing for his or her attention that you’re less likely to be focusing on the red flags within the relationship or looking for ways to get out of the relationship.

    5. The false self and the true self.

    The narcissist hides behind the armor of a “false self,” a construct of qualities and traits that he or she usually presents to the outside world to gain admiration and attention. Due to this armor, you are unlikely to comprehend the full extent of a narcissist’s inhumanity and lack of empathy until you are in the discard phase. This can make it difficult to pinpoint who the narcissistic abuser truly is – the sweet, charming and seemingly remorseful person that appears shortly after the abuse, or the abusive partner who ridicules, invalidates and belittles you on a daily basis?
    You suffer a great deal of cognitive dissonance trying to reconcile the illusion the narcissist first presented to you with the tormenting behaviors he or she subjects you to. In order to cope with this cognitive dissonance, you might blame yourself for his or her abusive behavior and attempt to “improve” yourself when you have done nothing wrong, just to uphold your belief in the narcissist’s false self during the devaluation phase.

    During the discard phase, the narcissist reveals the true self and you get a glimpse of the abuser that was lurking within all along. You bear witness to his or her cold, callous indifference as you are discarded. This is as close you will ever get to seeing the narcissist’s true self.

    The manipulative, conniving charm that existed in the beginning is no more — instead, it is replaced by the genuine contempt that the narcissist felt for you all along. See, narcissists don’t truly feel empathy for others – so during the discard phase, they often feel absolutely nothing for you except the excitement of having exhausted another source of supply. You were just another source of narcissistic supply, so do not fool yourself into thinking that the magical connection that existed in the beginning was in any way real. It was an illusion, much like the identity of the narcissist was an illusion.

    It is time to pick up the pieces, go No Contact, heal, and move forward. You were not only a victim of narcissistic abuse, but a survivor. Owning this dual status as both victim and survivor permits you to own your agency after the abuse and to live the life you were meant to lead — one filled with self-care, self-love, respect, and compassion.

    featured image – Basheer Tome

    1. How have you been, Edd? Editors note, Edd has met Jodi Arias face to face and is a good friend of hers and a Die Hard supporter. That was pretty harsh in the beginning there, Edd. Please keep it civil. Thanks for your comments.

    2. Edd, Edd, Edd. Like other Jodi fans, your anger projection shows so clearly. Copy/pasting lengthy dissertations from psychology websites does what to prove your point??
      Let’s face it, the right side won in the Arias case, and you can scream curses at Travis’s memory all you want, but none of it changes the fact that Jodi was rightfully convicted. End of story.

      1. pzkslc.

        No one has won, she was convicted on Half the evidence, you know this. When there is corruption it Should scream out to you that she did not have a fair trial, it should be obvious to Anyone, but not to you? Why IS that?
        DeMarte lied, this has been proved. JM lied, Horn lied, Flores lied, Melendez lied. Should the State lie in order to put someone to death? According to you they should.
        You might want to examine your personal motives.

        When this case comes to Federal Court things Will change; Jodi will Win her Appeal. Judges are already aware of JM’s misconduct, why aren’t you? It’s common knowledge JM has a pattern of it in every Murder case. Why are you closing your eyes to this Fact?

    3. How you doing Edd? Bet you’re hurting since you can’t see the blood sucking tick that was attached to Travis Alexander. Maybe Perryville will let you enter.

  4. Dear Rob you did a great job even though we don’t always agree. There are always 2 sides to every story and we only know the the chapter ends. None of us, including Ed Stack fully knows Jodi. People only know what Jodi wants them to know.
    But as you will see you will always have a couple people follow your blogs just to spite you. Be prepared.

    1. Others have been ”convicted murderers”, that was a ”FACT”, too, Judson McCulloch, so your argument is futile. Ray Krone was, for instance, he was on Death Row, and many others who have since been exonerated because of corrupt prosecutors, lead detectives and ME’s. You don’t want to acknowledge this fact, I know.
      The FACT is, Travis WAS an abuser. This was shown very starkly by the way he spoke to her, the names he called her and what he wrote to her in emails. These things are Actual Evidence, as opposed to hearsay and red herrings, and sorry, but Evidence counts even though you don’t want to see it.

    2. Geri, your file of comments to me, including wishing me to die, ridiculing my house, even my family relationships, are nowhere near normal either. I can’t imagine what your payoff is, and others, unless it is to keep your standing in the “haters gang”. You’re very wrong about Jodi, as far as I can see, and you’re very wrong about me. That said, I think you might be very wrong about Jodi’s guilt as well.

  5. Travis kept many journals. He used them for work. One thing I really like in his journal was that he often wrote, Do 3 random acts of kindness today. It was on his list of things to do. Sounds like a pretty great man to me. Jodi started mimicking how Travis wrote in his journals. He always initialled his when he ended his thoughts, TA. Jodi started doing that in hers. We know she read Travis’ journals because she wrote her love for him in one of his.
    We have shown you, time and time again. the evidence that Jodi committed premeditated murder on Travis. Does she deserve the death penalty? Well, since I don’t believe in it. I will say NO. LWOP is fine with me. She took a young man’s life for no good reason. There is a grieving family who will never be the same because of her actions. Her family will never be the same because of her actions. She does have to pay the piper.

  6. A friend of mine commented (below.) I had posed the question of why We can see the corruption in this farce of a trial and some people can’t or won’t:

    ” The people who see this “trial” as legal lynching (because it is) are those who have nothing to gain (either psychologically or monetarily [in terms of advancement]) from the death of the victim in this case (Jodi). The people who refuse to see that Jodi is being legally lynched are those who have some sort of social problem that seems to go away when they find someone to make into a sort of scapegoat; for example–Jodi’s a beautiful woman who refused to be killed by a man; all the men out there who are socially inept see a chance to vilify someone onto whom they’re projecting all their problems with social (and perhaps physical) impotence. All the religious people who are afraid that they’re hypocrites and don’t want to / can’t deal with these problems of their own (either because they know they themselves ARE hypocrites and don’t want to acknowledge this, and / or because they know of important members of their religious organizations that are hypocrites, and they don’t want to deal with these issues–they’d rather demonize someone else, who has nothing to do with their problems beyond the fact that she stumbled onto a group of religious nuts, and failed to be murdered by one of their popular members). Legal lynching has happened for reasons like these for a very, very long time in America–non-Whites who were more financially successful than their White business competitors found themselves accused of preposterous crimes and these accusations led to their entirely legalized lynching / death; women who fight back pose a threat to men, especially religious men whose religions revolve around dehumanizing women, in effect. Whenever a powerful group of people in America is threatened by a member of a less powerful / minority group, the source of that threat is often “taken care of” by the American legal system–that is, legal lynching. We, Heather, who support Jodi, don’t have any social issues or personal hangups that we share with a dominant social group–so we can see what’s going on without any defense mechanisms preventing us from looking at the issue objectively. The people who want to lynch Jodi obviously have severe issues; unfortunately, those people are not in the minority–they’re still the majority or members of the American mainstream that sympathize with a merely apparent religious minority because that apparent religious minority group has so much in common with mainstream “values” in regard to basic assumptions and social / sexual hangups of both secular and religious groups in mainstream America”

      1. As opposed to destructive–Rae Rima’s, ”A simple slam dunk case for the prosecution -JUSTUCE IS DEATH. She’s evil, she took a GOOD MANS LIFE, sold his journals his legacy!”

        I don’t see anything remotely ”civil” in her comments.

  7. I have a response to what Heather mentions. I have many friends on Social media and off social media. I do not wish DP on Jodi Arias but definatly wish LWOP. Jodi was convicted of M1 and there is no way out of it.
    In this case Heather Jodi is not the victim and never was. Travis is the victim and when this case is over Travis will still be the victim.
    Again Rob, great blog.

  8. Hi rob…yes there is a picture of it. No if you died your hair from blonde to brown your hair will still be brown. The only way hair changes colors……on your head only is if you are blonde and you die your hair brown. The part you died won’t change but you will have blonde roots. I will have to find the picture for you….its in the bathroom I believe stuck to the floor near the shower or tub.

      1. Hi Rob no it will never…..even if you died iyour hair blonde from brown and passed away…..it will always remain the color it was died. My friend is a stylist and I made sure I asked her before I answered your question.

  9. Hi Rob…..another thing is the stalking/peeping in windows. Ashton kuchter did that because he was worries about his girlfriend and thought so.ething happened to her. I can see once if someone is going to someone’s house and looking in the windows as they were walking around to the door….but she stood there long enough to see everything that she said in trial. But according to I’m to Regan or another girl that I can’t remember right now her name…she did it twice…..plus she walked into Travis house while he was there with Lisa and turned the lights off……and last trial she walked into Lisa’s house making the door chime ring when the door opens. She also followed Travis on dates with Mimi and Lisa. Lisa testified to that. And she sent texts to girls pretending to be Travis when he didn’t know…..that was in her email to Ryan. I’m sorry but that isn’t normal to me esp on such a short time. Travis journals stated he was happy she moved back and he wrote on that he didn’t talk to her a entire day and he loved it….I am not on Beth’s site…I just read some that were posted by people who are……other then that…I didn’t pay attention to hj and that eye nonsense. Gosh he sees a dog…..multiple people etc. I don’t think that’s even proven science. I like how you are able to see both sides.

    1. Hi Lisa,
      Keep on peeping is not good. I think it was accidental and her true intention was to visit Travis. She did it twice? I hadn’t heard that before. The story I heard about going over to Travis’ when he was there with Lisa was Jodi just turned and walked out. I had never heardbefore that she turned out the lights.

      I believe Lisa said that Travis THOUGHT Jodi was following them. When the alarm sounded that time at Lisa’s, they THOUGHT it was Jodi. Travis could have been right. I think JA texting “I’m here with Jodi now” or similar is “catty”, but I don’t se it as threatening or violent.

      It seems Travis was plenty miffed when Jodi left Mesa to go back to Yreka. I’m sure he was happy not to talk to her at that time. I really do try to see both sides, so thanks. The alternative theories are interesting and a bit bizarre, and that video is just a scream. I hadn’t laughed so hard in a LONG time. 🙂

      1. Rob, I understand it’s difficult to please everyone all the time in these discussions. I gave up a long time ago. But laughing at HJ, I think, is akin to bullying. I know HJ, and he is very sincere in his efforts. He is also respectful of both sides at all times, which I find pretty amazing. I don’t see everything HJ sees. I do see something. I think HJ and others have done a lot of preliminary work that if there was a way for it to be bumped up to the next level, might reveal more than we know. Those pics have been tampered with, in some way. I’m not sure exactly how, but I’ve seen enough from several people to support my belief.

        And Heather, Rob’s gonna run his blog the way he sees fit. Just like George. But you have amazing insights that I for one enjoy reading. They are needed. Try to ignore the crazymakers and the shit stirrers, and let your amazing intellect shine. You can always let off steam on my blog if you need it!

      2. I agree that Heather Soper has made some good and constructive comments. Well done!

        As for HJ, Sandra, I don’t really know him or even if that is his video. I did find the production qualities to be very high.

        I respect HJ and I mentioned that his work directly influenced the Jodi Arias trial. How many people can say that? It’s monumental. I would seriously consider what he has to say. Not so sure about the illuminati angle though. I think HJ Blankenship has brought a lot of color and a lot of food for thought to the trial table.

      3. Where is the evidence that Travis was “miffed” that Jodi left Mesa? In his journal on Beth Karas site, he only mentioned Jodi a couple of times and once was a week or so after she was gone to say he had not heard from her all day, never thought that time would come and it was a relief not to deal with drama,negativity (paraphrasing)
        Much of what is said as fact about Travis are only from Jodi’s words and as we heard so much of this week, there is definitely secondary gain. When we hear what others have said, he never wanted her to move to Mesa, contrary to her letter to his grieving family. We do know she showed up in his house uninvited, unexpected and unwanted. He had a house full of guests and she was told she could not stay and hid behind a Christmas tree, he was with Lisa and she turned off his breakers, if the door was “always open” as they claim, why was she sneaking around the back of the house to watch him? If you look at her journal, she mentions Travis obsessively, when taken into account how she would listen to his conversations outside of doors at the Hughes, wait for him outside of the bathroom, it is not a stretch to believe she was peeping while he was with someone else. She left things at his house on purpose to give herself an excuse to show up.
        Why would a man who did not get angry when she took a diamond ring he bought for someone else or trashed his BMW, suddenly become murderously angry over dropping a camera a matter of inches? Without checking to see if the camera was working? (which it obviously was!)
        What actual evidence of any of the abuse or anger do we have from any source other than Jodi? Lenore Walker was brought up again this week saying DeMarte did not know her work but Geffner obviously does not realize Ms Walker has given her opinion on Jodi’s case and stated she does not fit DV criteria. She did not share a home with him, did not depend on him for income, have children together, she had family support. Having lived with DV, I promise you, you do not drive 1200 miles to be with your abuser. The whole “he guilted me” is one of the most absurd excuses she has given.

      4. Thanks, Dig
        The murder you mention is a conspiracy between the defendant/convict and her lover to murder her husband for money – not similar at all to Jodi’s case.

        Eric Holder has called a halt to executions for the specific reason of the death drugs not being uniform and proven to be safe and humane. The European manufacturer’s of the proven drugs have refused to sell then for use in executions, so the states have gone to pharmacies to compound the drugs.

        States started using a variety of experimental and untested drugs in combinations and quantities of the drugs. This has resulted in a few botched executions where one convict died of a heart attack from the stress and others did not die quickly or painlessly, as in the recent, last execution in Arizona.

        The states have discussed reverting back to the gas chamber, hangings, and the firing squad. The latest talk is about using a technique called hydrogen poisoning, where the condemned breathes almost pure hydrogen from a mask and goes out like a light. Chances are, executions will be hot and heavy in the next few years.

        That’s true that many people who want Arias to get sentenced to death want this so she will suffer in isolation and not be able to get her word out or work with people on the outside. I think that’s a really poor reason to wish for death.

        I agree there is no witch hunt or railroading going on, but there really was no need to make this a death penalty case. for the reasons I gave. Ultimately, she will end up with life and will find a way to mix with some other prisoners. She should be careful of she does.

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